Comments on OSV Daily Take Blog: Archbishop Naumann on Sebelius' appointment

Anonymous 1:13:

Lord, it's tiring reading t...

2009-03-06T13:34:00.000-05:00

Anonymous 1:13:

Lord, it's tiring reading the same boilerplate about "partisanship" and "divisiveness" from people eager to make excuses for the likes of Sebelius. Abp. Naumann gave solid, factual reasons to illustrate that the Governor is objectively pro-abortion and unwilling to reduce it, yet you chime in with the same tired, passive-aggressive talking points. Your inability to rebut speaks volumes, none of them good.

Here's another fact: Sebelius hosted a party for George Tiller and his abortion clinic staff at the Governor's mansion.

Personally opposed? Hardly. She's pro-abortion, and it is the shameful, disingenuous defenses of such behavior by nominal Catholic from people like yourselves that helps perpetuate the horror of abortion. Divisive--you sure are. When Catholics make excuses like this, you rend the Church's prolife witness. Why don't you just admit that your concern about abortion is somewhere down on the list of priorities by "better handwriting" and save us all the sophistry?

The idea of working with the administration by tol...

2009-03-06T13:29:00.000-05:00

The idea of working with the administration by tolerating abortion and simply exerting efforts to prevent it is still tolerating a grave evil. Now with the live-birth "abortion", we're talking about crying & screaming babies dumped in plastic bags & the administration supports it. See for yourself in YouTube. This idea is a deception. Read Archbishop Chaput's article. And see for yourself in YouTube the real B.O. as he talks about putting the cultural wars for life behind us. Watch & judge for yourself. (I've combined all 3 references in http://www.divine-ripples.blogspot.com/ ) Bottom line, let us not be duped into supporting abortion, infanticide, etc... under the guise of tolerance. If the admin really wants to prevent abortions, why does he plan to roll-back the conscience clause for doctors who want to refuse? Why did he divert the funds to pro-abortion groups in Mexico?

2009-03-06T13:23:00.000-05:00

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While not a Catholic, I share many of their belief...

2009-03-06T09:44:00.000-05:00

While not a Catholic, I share many of their beliefs, especially regarding our personal salvation. I am in total agreement with the Bishop and am dismayed at the nomination of Kathleen Sebelius. This country is being taken down a very steep road to stopping ALL Christians from speaking out about their faith, based on God's Word. I support Bishop Naumann and all who stand for the rights of the unborn. My prayers are for them and for all our leaders that we will not continue down the path toward socialism and all it represents.
Gene

Thank you Archbishop Joseph Naumann. I pray for th...

2009-03-06T09:35:00.000-05:00

Thank you Archbishop Joseph Naumann. I pray for the conversion of Gov. Sebelius.

Excommunication should be an option too.

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I'm sorry, but Archbishop Naumann's purpose with t...

2009-03-06T01:13:00.000-05:00

I'm sorry, but Archbishop Naumann's purpose with these comments is not pastoral, it's partisan. Where is his pastoral responsibility? I've never seen a Bishop throw around such divisive phrases as he does. Yes, abortion is a grave moral evil, but people of good faith can disagree with how best to approach the issue of abortion. Gov. Sebelius seems to want to work within the context of legalized abortion to reduce it; she knows she can't repeal Roe v. Wade and has tried to work around that. The Archbishop disparages those efforts because he wants nothing less than complete lock-step, but he forgets that Sebelius doesn't represent Catholics, she represents Kansans. Nonetheless, she has been proactive about reducing abortions. The criticism Naumann has heaped on her and other groups is nothing short of partisan and he's revealed himself as the errand-boy of the right that he is. With that as his mission, he's no shepard.

I am from Kansas, and yes I don't like that Sam Br...

2009-03-05T20:56:00.000-05:00

I am from Kansas, and yes I don't like that Sam Brownback or any other Catholic is congratulating Governer Sebelius. This is the problem. We should stand up to these pro-death candidates every time, anyplace, anywhere. That's what "Defending Life" means. The Bishop is the Pastor, he needs the flock to help out, too. This will never be "politically correct" but we have to kick out of the flock what's bad for the flock. Politicians backslapping each other for their political savviness and success turns my stomach, especially when it came from accepting blood money and turning a blind eye to murdering a baby as it is being born, while saying "vote for me, I'm Catholic". Sam, and every catholic, and anyone who believes that murder is wrong, or who ever has a say about confirming this woman, needs to ask the Holy Spirit for some guts. The only quote I can remember from Reagan went something like this. "the worst things happen when good people didn't do anything to stop it" Now, are the times that try all our souls. Let's all rely on the Holy Spirit to guide us, and kick us in the rear to do something.

Good article. Thank you Archbishop Naumann.

2009-03-05T16:12:00.000-05:00
Good article. Thank you Archbishop Naumann.

Pray for Sebelius

Leaders of some pro-life organizations are laying ...

2009-03-04T22:48:00.000-05:00

Leaders of some pro-life organizations are laying into long-time pro-life champion U.S. Senator Sam Brownback, R-Kansas, for issuing a statement congratulating Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius upon her nomination for Secretary of Health and Human Services. These criticism are misplaced, short-sighted, and ungrateful.

MISPLACED: By criticizing Brownback, these pro-life leaders are creating a side story concerning a fight between pro-lifers. Rather than focusing on attacking Sebelius, and making her the focus of the story, the story becomes instead pro-life activists v. Brownback.

SHORT-SIGHTED: The criticism is short-sighted for several reasons. First, Kathleen Sebelius WILL get confirmed, with or without Sen. Brownback’s vote. Democrats have 58 votes in the upper chamber. The HHS seat has been open for a long while, and is the last Obama cabinet slot to be filled. Democrats are not going to let this one fail.

Second, if it wasn’t Sebelius at HHS, we would get a different pro-abort at HHS - this is a pro-abort president and HHS affects numerous abortion-related issues. He has to placate his NARAL allies by putting a pro-abortion politician in the HHS slot. So then it’s just whether we’ll get this pro-abort or that pro-abort. And at least with this pro-abort, she is prevented from running for the open US Senate seat in Kansas. Brownback is following his term-limits pledge, thus creating an open seat in 2010. If Sebelius ran for it, she would be a very strong candidate, and probably the only Democrat who could win (and help continue to revive the Kansas Democratic Party). With her in the cabinet, the NRSC can sleep easier knowing that seat is much safer.

Third, pro-life leaders should want Sen. Brownback to do well back in Kansas. A healthy movement takes care of its own. He’s running for governor of Kansas in 2010. To oppose the popular incumbent governor’s nomination would hurt his standing among the people of Kansas. Pro-life leaders should accept the political necessity of a senator supporting a popular nominee from his home state.

Fourth, Sen. Brownback’s opposition to the nomination is not necessary to make Obama pay a political price for it. They can blast Sebelius, issue press releases, hold press conferences, set up websites, raise money, etc. just fine on this one. They can work with the pro-life members of the Senate Finance Committee to ask very tough questions during her nomination hearing before that Committee (a committee on which Brownback does not sit). There’s no reason they need to make Brownback an issue at all.

UNGRATEFUL: Sam Brownback has been a hero for the pro-life cause throughout his congressional career. He has made it his signature issue. To write him out of the movement over one vote that has already been lost is more than just silly, it is profoundly ungrateful for his many years of yeoman’s work on these issues.

I WILL ADD ARCHBISHOP NAUMANN TO MY LIST OF CHURCH...

2009-03-04T19:23:00.000-05:00

I WILL ADD ARCHBISHOP NAUMANN TO MY LIST OF CHURCH OFFICIALS I AM PRAYING FOR AFTER READING THIS ARTICLE. THESE HEROES ARE FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST THIS HORRIBLE PRACTICE. I WILL SUPPORT THESE MEN BECAUSE THEY ARE SPEAKING AND ACTING THE WAY A LOT OF US APPROVE OF.
SOME OF THE OTHERS ON MY LIST. BISHOP BURKE OF ST LOUIS, FATHER JOHN CAROPI, MY OWN PARRISH PRIEST, FATHER DON SAWYER, AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, OUR GREAT POPE BENEDICT XVI AND POPE JOHN PAUL II.
NOW THAT IS AN IMPRESSIVE LIST BUT IT IS CERTAINLY NOT COMPLETE. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS I LEFT OUT BUT I AM CERTAINLY WITH THEM TOO.